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Jerry Hickey, Ph.: [00:00:41] The percentage of patients who come into their doctor and complain about fatigue that’s so bad that it interferes with their lives will probably surprise you. 27%. 27% of patients who go to see a medical doctor each year in the United States are there because they’re so fatigued they can’t function. Then the doctor has to figure out the cause, which is not an easy thing because, you know, the way you live can make you fatigued. Like people who do illicit drugs, people who do prescription drugs, working many hours, having multiple responsibilities like children and a job… I mean, all these things are exhausting, so the doctors have to figure out, is it that. Then they have to figure out, is it alcohol? Is it marijuana? Is it partying? Is it a disease? They have to check for diseases. So… And even like psychological issues like depression, depression, anxiety, all those things can cause fatigue.† [00:01:43]
[00:01:46] So most people who are fatigued, it’s acute fatigue, you know, like a sudden onset and it occurs suddenly and it lasts, it can last less than three months. And that’s usually caused by over exercise, not enough sleep, not eating well, dieting. It could be a byproduct of diseases, okay? But there’s something a little more rare. Chronic fatigue, chronic fatigue syndrome. Now, like I said, fatigue could be a byproduct of diseases. It could be a byproduct of cancer, severe depression. But if you have severe fatigue for six months or more and it’s accompanied by a lot of pain and the doctor has excluded all other causes, then they might come out with a diagnosis called chronic fatigue syndrome. It’s actually called myalgic encephalomyelitis, but people know it as chronic fatigue syndrome.† [00:02:50]
[00:02:51] So hi, my name is Jerry Hickey. I’m a nutritional pharmacist. I’m the Senior Scientific Officer over here at InViteⓇ Health. Welcome to my episode, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: What Can Really Help? I want to thank you for tuning in today to the InViteⓇ Health Podcast. You can find all of our episodes for free wherever you listen to podcasts or just visit invitehealth.com/podcast. Please subscribe and leave us a review. You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram at @invitehealth and information on this episode is linked at the episode description, so let’s get going. So fatigue is the main symptom of chronic fatigue syndrome, but it’s not the only side. And by the way, studies show that women are four more times likely to develop a chronic fatigue type of condition than men. It’s more common in women. So in this chronic condition, myalgic encephalomyelitis, of course, the most common symptom is severe fatigue, but accompanying that is frequently pain and other symptoms. So they can have muscle pain and joint pain, problems sleeping, and that happens, you know, when you get overly tired, it’s hard to sleep. Headaches, persistent headaches, sore throats. Their lymph nodes can swell. They can have tender lymph nodes. And the thing is, this could be really disabling. Chronic fatigue syndrome, if it’s the true syndrome, it could be extremely disabling. I mean, it could be as bad as heart disease or severe kidney disease or multiple sclerosis.† [00:04:32]
[00:04:36] So what causes it? Nobody knows. And like I said, it’s, it’s, it’s a diagnosis of exclusion. They have to rule out other causes. They have to rule out cancer, diabetes, lung disease, kidney disease, whatever it might be, they have to rule out anemia. They have to rule out an underactive thyroid. If your thyroid isn’t working, you’re going to be fatigued. So after all all these other things out. They have to rule out infections. They have to rule out psychological conditions, mood conditions like depression and anxiety, and they give you a certain test to try and help, like, like… Oh, and by the way, they take a very careful history, you know, to make sure it’s not cigarette smoking, you know, which doesn’t normally cause severe fatigue, but it can add to it or because it can make it hard to breathe right or, you know, using marijuana or whatever. But they give blood tests. They want to see your blood cell count. That can also tell them if there’s an infection or if your blood sugar is high or if you’re deficient in something. They give you a urine test to see if there’s an infection. They might do sleep studies. They want to see if you have sleep apnea, obstructive sleep apnea, or if you have some kind of insomnia or restless leg syndrome because all those can cause severe fatigue. They’ll probably give you a stress test to see how your heart and lungs are working. They’ll probably want you to see a psychologist or psychiatrist for a psychological examination to see if there’s any kind of disorder.† [00:06:14]
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[00:06:17] So there’s a lot of symptoms besides pain and fatigue in this condition. There’s just that horrible discomfort. In pharmacy, we call it malaise. It’s just it’s like, you know, when you have the flu and you’re just uncomfortable. Extreme fatigue, all kinds of body pain. Brain fog, your memory isn’t functioning. You have poor concentration. You have the tender lymph nodes, pain in your joints, a sore throat. Like I said, a headache. When you go to sleep at night, it’s not refreshing. People with chronic fatigue syndrome when they sleep, it’s not refreshing. They should develop a sleep schedule because that’ll help a little bit. Like going to bed at the same time each night, getting up to the same time each morning. Another thing that happens with chronic fatigue syndrome, when they do something mental, they could be exhausted for days after it. When they do something physical, they could be exhausted for days after it. So exercise is important. You don’t tell somebody with chronic fatigue syndrome not to exercise, but you have to really tailor it according to that person, because if they overdo it… I’ve had people with chronic fatigue syndrome who’ve exercised and wound in bed, wound up in bed for three days after because they were so exhausted from the exercise. So it really has to be tailored to what they can do, such as taking a short walk, etc.† [00:07:44]
[00:07:46] Now risk factors that they think might be related to chronic fatigue syndrome, and once again, they don’t know what causes it, but it might be infections like a viral infection, like they’re looking at Epstein-Barr virus, but they’ve been doing that for years. They’re looking at herpes six, but they’ve been doing that for years. Might be some kind of psychological trauma or physical trauma like abuse. They’re looking at exposure to toxins. They’re looking at certain personality traits like people who are perfectionists. Severe mental stress, problems with hormones like your stress hormones, problems with your thyroid, problems with your immune system. And once again, for some crazy reason, women are more prone to this condition.† [00:08:41]
[00:08:43] There are treatments that doctors normally prescribe for chronic fatigue syndrome like they might give you antidepressants, like amytriptyline or doxepin, for the mood problems. There are supplements that can get around that that may be important for people with chronic fatigue syndrome that may help with their energy, but also with their mood. We’ll get to that later. We’ll get to supplements later. You know, and I have to tell you this. People go to a nutrition doctor for chronic fatigue syndrome, and they… And they wind up using 20 different supplements. Let me tell you something. 10 or 15, those supplements aren’t going to help. They’re not bad. They’re not going to hurt, but they’re not really going to address the fatigue. There’s not a lot of supplements that have been proven to help with the fatigue, but there are some that do help. Now, it’s not hitting a grand slam during the last inning of the last game of the World Series, when you take the supplements or the drugs. You’re still going to be fatigued. But if you can feel 50% better, that’s saying a lot. That makes a big difference. Sometimes they use anxiolytics in people with chronic fatigue syndrome, which I think is crazy because those drugs make you sleepy. They’re drugs for anxiety. They make you sleepy. So giving it to someone who’s fatigued is really going to blow them away. They use NSAIDs for the pain. The problem with that is NSAIDs are not good for your kidneys. They’re not good for your heart, they’re not good for your blood pressure. That would be drugs like ibuprofen, naproxen, celecoxib, diclofenac. They might give you cognitive behavior therapy. That’s a good idea. They help you figure out your daily activities. You know what in your lifestyle will improve your, your, how you feel. Hopefully, you’ll see somebody who could give you some kind of graded exercise program, so they’ll, they’ll work very slowly to see how much exercise you can handle without being knocked out for three days in bed. And slowly but surely, they’ll try to increase the intensity of the exercise. Now, yoga, meditation, tai chi might help.† [00:11:06]
[00:11:10] You really need to not have caffeine. You really need to not have alcohol. And like I said before you need, you need a sleep routine. You need to handle stress. You need to learn how to handle stress. You need to avoid refined carbohydrates. You know, the refined foods that are real sugary. You need to avoid the overly processed foods, you know, like white bread, like a lot of the different crackers and cookies and sodas and cakes and things like that. Foods to focus on would be more like, you know, two or three servings of fresh fruit a day, three servings of fresh vegetables every day. Whole grains, could be a cereal, could be a whole grain bread. Legumes. Legumes are healthy. You can have chicken, remove the skin. You can have fish. I’m not a big believer in red meats, but there are things in red meat that help with energy, like carnosine and carnitine. Some of the doctors put you on low-fat dairy. That depends on a person. Certainly having a high-quality yogurt is not a bad thing.† [00:12:33]
[00:12:34] Now, let’s look at supplements that can help you. Let’s look at supplements that can help you. They looked at cocoa. Cocoa helped. Cocoa did help and cocoa is very rich in a lot of things that are good for circulation and good for your brain. There’s like a hierarchy of things in cocoa that are great for your brain and that energize your brain. So there’s salsolinol and phenylethylamine. These make you feel wanted and useful and socially acceptable, etc. There’s anandamide that makes you feel wonderful and happy. There’s methylxanthines, theophylline and theobromine that give your brain energy, that wake up your brain, that make it easier to concentrate and focus. That’s one reason why cocoa will be great for you. And then there’s flavan-3-ols that work as anti-inflammatory antioxidant agents in the brain that also help circulation to your brain. So the University of Hull is in England, and they took people with chronic fatigue syndrome and they gave them a flavanol-rich cocoa drink. That was not a big study, but it was a crossover study. A crossover study means one group got placebo, the other group got the cocoa drink, and then later on they switched it. The people who were originally on a cocoa are now on placebo, which is a fake thing, and the people that were on the placebo are now on the cocoa and always the cocoa helped them. It significantly improved their fatigue over this eight week study, and it’s very safe. I mean, I have cocoa every day because it’s so good for the brain. I’m an old guy. So the scores in a chronic fatigue, Chalder Fatigue Scale really improved. That’s one of the skills they used to gauge fatigue. That’s in the Nutrition journal. Well, you know, it makes sense also because cocoa feeds your healthy bacteria and your healthy bacteria have a lot to do with your brain and your heart and your immune system. So, you know, there are certain healthy foods that interact with the good bacteria in your intestines that are really good for your brain, so that might be part of it. Maybe the cocoa was… Part of the reason the cocoa is going to be good is because it’s good for the good bacteria in your intestines, who reduce inflammation in the brain. Part of reason the cocoa is going to be good is because the ingredients in the cocoa that are directly good for the brain. So if somebody comes on to me and says chronic fatigue syndrome, I’m going to say, “Hey, try our cocoa.”† [00:15:17]
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[00:15:18] Now, what about chocolate? That’s hard to say, because when you process the cocoa butter into chocolate, you might lose some of these ingredients. And now, there’s studies also on probiotics and prebiotics. You know what? I think I’d better cut it short here. We’ll do this show in two segments. That’s what we’ll have to do, because there’s a lot more to say about this. So thank you for tuning in to the InViteⓇ Health Podcast. You can find all of our episodes for free wherever you listen to podcasts or just visit invitehealth.com/podcast. Please subscribe and leave us a review. You can also follow us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @invitehealth. Hope to see you next time on part two of this episode on chronic fatigue syndrome. Thank you so much for listening. Jerry Hickey signing off.† [00:15:18]
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Jerry Hickey, Ph.: Your thyroid is a gland that releases thyroid hormones and when it’s not working well, which is pretty common… When it under functions, which is called hypothyroidism, you could feel very fatigued. It might be hard to focus. You pretty much feel miserable. So where is your thyroid gland and what does it do? A gland releases hormones. Hormones are kind of messengers that travel throughout the entire body, and they knock on the door of every cell and the cells that need it allow it to come in. So your thyroid affects literally every cell in the body. It stores and releases several thyroid hormones and conditions that affect the thyroid are very common, especially under function. But more on these thyroid hormones later, I’ll explain what they do.†
Now, the thyroid hormones in general are essential for the function of every cell in your body. They help regulate growth, including muscle development. For children, they need it for growth, and they need it for brain function. They’re needed for the rate of all the chemical reactions that take place in your body every second, all those tens of thousands of reactions. That’s called metabolism. Now your thyroid hormone’s needed for brain function. So if the levels are low, that leads to feelings of stress or anxiety or even depression. Commonly, these people experience brain fatigue. That could be accompanied by nervousness and brain fog, or even an inability to concentrate and carry on a good conversation. If it’s really advanced, low thyroid function, which is called hypothyroidism, I’ll repeat that a couple of times throughout the conversation here. Thyroid hormones affect our heart rate. In fact, sometimes when you got a prescription drug of thyroid hormone that could make your heart race like levothyroxine, which is also called Synthroid. So it’s always good when you first get a thyroid hormone to underestimate the dose, to start at a lower dose than the doctor thinks you need and this way, you don’t get side effects and the body can kind of adapt to the thyroid hormone.†
So people with an overactive thyroid, which is not very common, that’s called hyperthyroid, overactive thyroid. Their heart races, they burn all the fat in their body. They burn all their muscle, they lose bone. They’re very anxious and nervous. They’re very overactive. Their eyes can bulge out. That’s called ophthalmos. Too much thyroid hormone, like I said, can make your heart race, but it can also affect your blood pressure. Now it does affect your, your body temperature. So if you’re low in thyroid hormone, you could feel really cold in the winter. Thyroid hormone’s very important for metabolism, a major part of metabolism is converting food into energy. So if your thyroid is under functioning, you can feel really fatigued.†
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So where’s it located? It’s located in the lower part of your neck. So in a man, it would be just below the Adam’s apple. It wraps around your trachea. Your trachea is the pipe from your nose and mouth to your lungs, so it’s called your windpipe. The thyroid wraps around the trachea. It kind of has a butterfly shape, so it has two wings, one on each side of the trachea, they’re called lobes, and they’re attached in the middle part by something called an isthmus.†
So today we’re going to discuss Synthroid. It’s also known as levothyroxine or T4. This drug is very commonly prescribed. It’s always among the top five prescribed drugs in the United States and worldwide. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people are on it. They use it for treating hypothyroidism. So hi, my name is Jerry Hickey. I’m a nutritional pharmacist. I’m also the Senior Scientific Officer over here at InViteⓇ Health and welcome to my episode: Levothyroxine, a Thyroid Drug, and Its Interaction with Nutrition. Thanks for tuning into today’s InViteⓇ Health Podcast episode. You can find all of these episodes for free wherever you listen to a podcast, or just visit invitehealth.com/podcast. Please subscribe and leave us a review. You can also follow us on Facebook (I think that’s called Metaverse today), Twitter, Instagram @invitehealth, and the information on this episode is linked at the episode description, so I really want to get going here.†
Well over 30 million people suffer from a thyroid condition called hypothyroidism. That’s in the United States. It’s under functioning of your thyroid gland. So it happens when your thyroid doesn’t produce enough thyroid hormone. It’s pretty common and it becomes more common with age. It leads to a slowing down of metabolism. You get fatigued, brain fog, dry skin, weight gain, problems with the heart, inflammation, elevated cholesterol, digestive tract issues, nervousness and more. I mean, it’s very common for people to have some depression, moodiness, forgetfulness, poor concentration. Some people get goiter. The thyroid in the neck enlarges and they have like a swollen thing in their neck. They can develop brittle nails, brittle hair. In fact, they can suffer with hair loss. Their face gets puffy. They can have a slowed down heart rate because you need thyroid hormones for the rate of your heartbeat. They can have problems like diarrhea and constipation. Their cholesterol goes up. The good cholesterol goes down and the bad cholesterol goes up. It can affect fertility. It can affect women’s menstrual cycles if they’re younger. But you have a loss of energy, persistent fatigue, cold sensitivity, like it’s cold outside, you really feel it. Your joints can ache. You can have muscle cramps and stiffness. A lot of stuff. Dry, itchy skin. Just a lot of things. †
So a lot of people think metabolism is just how fast they burn calories, because that’s, you know, that’s what the weight loss companies tell you. Metabolism. It’s all about burning calories. No, no. That’s a vast oversimplification of the term. Metabolism is sustaining your life. It’s a life-sustaining process. It involves all of the different chemical reactions that take place in your cells every second. Tens of thousands of them are going on right now. So it maintains your ability to live. So death is a lack of metabolism. I mean, that’s really the definition of death. So thyroid is needed for metabolism.†
Now, the number one thyroid drug is called Synthroid, but it’s widely available as a generic, which is called levothyroxine, which is T4. So let me tell you the various thyroid hormones. Your thyroid generally releases two hormones: T4, which is the levothyroxine also called Synthroid, and T3, and it releases mostly T4 with a little T3. The thing is, T4 is not that active. It’s really the T3 that does the job. So you get a little T3 so you have instant energy and instant metabolism and slowly but surely, the T4 is converted into the active form in like your liver and your muscles, etc. So T4 is supposed to convert to T3, and then it works. When you get Synthroid (levothyroxine), it’s only T4. That doesn’t work in everybody. Some people have trouble converting that to T3. They could get a second hormone called Cytomel, which is also called liothyronine. You get a low dose of that. That’s actually active T3. You see that more in people with Celtic background and Irish backgrounds, where they have an inability to convert T4 to T3 adequately, so they seem to have a little bit of ADHD kind of thing going on. So they actually… they actually might do a lot better with a different thyroid called Armour Thyroid, which is a natural thyroid. It’s a prescription, but you get the thyroid combination released from your own thyroid. You get the T4 and T3, so a lot of people do better on the Armour Thyroid than they do on the levothyroxine.†
There’s another hormone called TSH, and that’s very useful for diagnosing problems with the thyroid. So normally there’s a certain amount of T3 and T4 in your blood. There’s like a normal range, and when there’s not enough, the brain makes note of this and it releases TSH to push the thyroid to work harder. So you really shouldn’t see much TSH in the blood. So even if your level is high, but it’s on the high end of normal, excuse me. But even if your level of TSH is normal, let’s say again, even if your TSH is normal, but it’s kind of like in the high end of normal, that might be an indication that you have a sluggish thyroid. So TSH is released from the brain when the thyroid is not producing adequate amounts of thyroid hormones, so it’s really pushing the thyroid to work. It stands for thyroid stimulating hormone. So when you see low levels, that means the thyroid is probably over functioning and when you see high levels, that means the thyroid is under functioning.†
Now, when you take Synthroid, levothyroxine, T4, they’re all the same thing, it lasts all day long. It has a very long half-life. You have to take it away from everything. So I told people who take it like, take it a couple of hours before your breakfast, take it a couple of hours before your multivitamin. You don’t want to take any minerals with it because thyroid hormone is essentially made out of an amino acid that comes out of a protein called tyrosine and iodine. And if you get a lot of minerals, like divalent minerals like potassium, magnesium, calcium, etc., they’re going to attach to the thyroid hormone. They’re going to attach to the iodine and the drug won’t work. So that’s why we don’t like you to take anything when you’re taking thyroid hormone, we like you to wait a couple of hours. Now you have to avoid these almost universally.†
So this is important: If you’re on thyroid medication, you have to avoid these things. Seaweed. Seaweed is loaded with iodine. There’s been reports for many years of people with normal thyroid function, snacking on chips made out of seaweed, who develop an overactive thyroid. So you don’t want to have the seaweed chips if you’re on a thyroid medication. And even if you have normal thyroid function, you don’t want to overdo seaweed. Now, another name for seaweed is bladderwrack, so you want to stay away from bladderwrack. You’ll be getting too much iodine. And you don’t want to take kelp because that’s also iodine. But here’s the thing. Part of your thyroid is still working, so it still needs to be nourished. So you do want to get some iodine. We’ll address that in a minute.†
So if you’re on a thyroid medication, you really want to avoid the next two herbs. Ashwagandha root. Everybody is going crazy today with ashwagandha. Ashwagandha increases thyroid function. If you’re on thyroid medication, that could be potentially dangerous but also Coleus forskohlii. That’s another herb that affects the thyroid. So if you’re on thyroid medication, you don’t want to have seaweed. You don’t want to have Coleus forskholii. You don’t want to have ashwagandha root. You don’t want to have a lot of iodine. You also don’t want to take your thyroid with food or with other supplements. You want to take it at least two hours before.†
Now, we all still need some iodine, even if we’re on thyroid medication. See, I always tell people, think of the thyroid as an apple pie with different slices and people with an under functioning thyroid, they still have some of that pie. They still have some slices. They’re just missing some slices. So they give you the amount of thyroid appropriate to make out for the percentage of thyroid functioning you’re lacking. So they’re not replacing your entire thyroid hormone release. You’re still releasing some thyroid hormone unless you’ve had your thyroid surgically removed or destroyed by radioactive iodine. So you still need some iodine, but get it from your multivitamin, typically they give enough iodine for people that it won’t interact with their thyroid medication.†
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Now let me give you another tip. If you’re put on levothyroxine and it’s making your heart race, tell the doctor because they should lower the dosage, but take a supplement called L-carnitine. Everybody thinks L-carnitine increases energy. It’s a lot more complex than that. L-carnitine is an energy regulator, so if you’re fatigued, it brings up your energy. But if you’re hyperactive or your metabolism is racing, it brings down your energy. So if you took too much levothyroxine and your heart’s racing and you feel all nervous and all, and this becomes a problem, you might want to try some L-carnitine. Now, even though you’re on thyroid medication, the remaining part of your still-functioning thyroid needs to be nourished, so you do need some iodine. About 150 micrograms a day is plenty.
You still need selenium. Selenium converts T4 to T3. So if you’re taking Synthroid, levothyroxine, it’s T4, you need to be able to convert it to T3 for it to function. The body requires selenium to accomplish that. But the body also requires zinc and Vitamin A to accomplish that. So a lot of these things could be found in a multivitamin, the iodine, the selenium, the zinc, the Vitamin A. So T4 is not very active, that’s the Synthroid, the levothyroxine prescription. You have to change that into T3 for it to work. It’s much more active. You require selenium, zinc and Vitamin A to achieve that. You also should use some Vitamin D because Vitamin D helps prevent your thyroid from becoming further inflamed. You need some iron. Iron blocks reverse T3. Reverse T3… If the doctor looks in your blood, your thyroid hormone levels might be normal, but if you have a lot of reverse T3, that’s blocking the thyroid hormones from working. So if you have sufficient iron in your blood, that blocks reverse T3 and it allows your thyroid hormones to work.†
You need protein to get tyrosine to make thyroid hormone. That’s how it works. It’s attached to iodine. So T4, which is levothyroxine, which is Synthroid, is a chain of four molecules of iodine attached to tyrosine. For it to become active, it has to become T3, which is a chain of three molecules of iodine attached to tyrosine. So you need to eat some protein to get the tyrosine. You also need B-vitamins. There’s eight B-vitamins because you need them to utilize the energy that the thyroid hormone is going to release properly.†
So I hope I’ve been some help here. Nutrition is important for your thyroid, even if you’re on thyroid hormone because there is some thyroid function remaining and that has to be nourished. I want to thank you for listening to today’s episode. You could find all of our episodes for free wherever you listen or just visit invitehealth.com/podcast. Please subscribe and leave us a review. You can also follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @invitehealth. I hope to see you next time on another episode of the InViteⓇ Health Podcast, and thank you so much for listening. Jerry Hickey signing off. †
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